Monday, May 14

On Giuliani:

Joy: He’s dropping in the polls now rapidly and Bloomberg is “kicking a**"

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Joy thinks Bloomberg is in it and she thinks because he has so much money he wouldn’t be beholden to anyone. Rosie would vote for him because he took only a dollar as a salary. (Hillary should quickly pay back her salary to the taxpayers. If Bloomberg is in, she may lose some votes over this issue.)

The last couple of days have seen an amazing swing in the press against Giuliani. Whenever the mainstream press is on the move, the women of the View can’t be far behind:

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Joy: Giuliani post 9/11 appeared to be very heroic but now they are saying that he was not that efficient in helping the people who were the recovery people, the responders
Rosie: Also he was instrumental in making sure all of the steel was removed and shipped to Canada right away. Giuliani- it was 6 ships to China, sorry- right away
Joy: For what purpose?
Rosie: Well to get it out of there- to have you know all of the stu- but it was all gone so there was like no like metal to test. There was no, there was no
Woodruff: Can you melt it down to recycle?
Rosie: No
Elisabeth (laughing): So now Giuliani was involved in a cover up- is that what’s going on?

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Rosie has some sources! The conspiracy theories she buys into are absolutely incredible. While Giuliani was touring the destruction, breathing in the same dust the first responders were breathing in, he apparently had some major effort under way to cover up something by shipping the steel out of the U.S.A. as quickly as possible. It gets worse:

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Elisabeth goes on: I just want to check because look- here’s what I think is happening and I think it is kind of sad because we are getting closer and closer to the election and Giuliani seems to be, at least up until this point, the frontrunner for the Republican Party
Joy: Except for his left of center domestic positions
Elisabeth: I mean Mitt Romney’s coming up a little bit but he’s got his own challenges. I think Giuliani at this point really has been the number one horse for the Republicans
Joy: Compared to the rest of them he seems like a genius- compared to the rest of them in the Republican Party right now
Elisabeth: All of a sudden he’s not a hero. He’s been a hero right up until election time Rosie: Well because how many years later there’s 40,000 people dying of 9/11 related illness- those workers who went down there 40,000- one guy in Nanuet, right where I live just died in his home. He was younger than me- went down there every day for two months looking for his brother firefighters – the guy died of lung cancer. These people are dying at an unprecedented rate and they knew that the air there was toxic
Joy: Let me read what it says here according to documents that they now say: “While the city had a safety plan for the workers it never meaningfully enforced federal requirements that those at the site wear respirators. They didn’t enforce that particular rule and a lot
Elisabeth: Some chose not to
Joy: A lot of those guys, and I guess women too, were annoyed with then when they put them on because they interfered with their job
Rosie: Just so you know those were not respirators, those were Home Depot masks that they want you to wear when you’re spray painting. The respirators that they need was to prevent carcinogens from getting onto their lungs which is now killing them
Joy: They were not prepared
Rosie: But you understand 3000 people died that day but 40,000 are dying of 9/11 diseases
Elisabeth: We should respond to them. Without a doubt our government should be taking care of those people
Rosie: But we’re not even saying that there is a 9/11 disease

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She then explains all of the wonderful research that Mount Sinai is doing and the program that Scientologists are doing to detoxify fireman.

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Joy: 70% of recovery workers at Mount Sinai hospital have breathing problems
Elisabeth: It was to take 30 months to clean up after 9/11- it ended up taking 9. If you look back- at the time people were applauding his action and how rapid
Joy: He was too fast though. He took
Elisabeth: He took incredible action to make things better
Rosie: It was the biggest crime scene ever in the history of the world right and all the evidence was cleaned up and sent away
Woodruff: We had no plan in New York City- everybody rushed down there you had to be able to anticipate this in some way

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It is amazing the hindsight people like Rosie have.

Gee- we thought at the time that it was better for the city to clean it up and begin to rebuild the area- get the businesses back on track.

Apparently there was more to the “crime scene” than the whole world thought. Maybe it wasn’t a bunch of fundamentalist Muslim maniacs who hijacked planes and crashed them into buildings.

Rosie must be on to something: Bush and Giuliani hatched a plan, years before Bush got elected, to plan September 11^th. The Supreme Court had to be in on it because otherwise Gore would have been President and that would have wrecked everything. So they hatched this plan and then succeeded in crashing the planes into the buildings and then the imploded building 7 to hide all the data. And then they sent all of the evidence to China to be destroyed. And everybody involved has done a great job keeping their secret.

Then Joy goes on a rant about the ‘93 World Trade Center attack and how Giuliani responded to it.

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Joy: According to what I’ve been reading, they told Giuliani to take the command control center out of the World Trade Center because it’s a target- maybe they’ll try again. EVERYBODY told him to do that- He did not listen. He kept it in the World Trade center so when they attacked the World Trade Center the command control center went up with it
Rosie: Do you know Joy- just so you know- Joy wait a minute- the command control center was in World Trade Center Building 7- not in 1 or 2. It was in the building that mysteriously collapsed at 5:30 p.m.
Joy: It shouldn’t have been in any of them
Rosie: It was not in tower 1 that got hit by a plane. It was not in tower 2 that got hit by a plane. It was in tower 7 that got hit by nothing- 47 floors and dropped at 5:30 into itself
Elisabeth: There was also internal fire in that building which can melt steel which was holding up that building
Rosie: No way Elisabeth
Elizabeth: It can weaken it
Rosie: No way

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Rosie goes on and on with her conspiracy theories… 2700 degrees melts steel… there were three pools of molten steel under those three buildings… It was physically impossible for those buildings to drop as fast as they did

At some point her calm explanations about these conspiracy theories should scare everybody involved with her. She so completely believes that the American government would lie about anything but seems so willing to accept the stories of terrorists.

Oh, silly me. She sounds sincere and clearly talks to lots of people. She sounds like she is making perfect sense. How could Rosie be wrong?!?

The real deal here: The press has turned on Giuliani because they now think that the Democratic candidates have a shot at winning the '08 election. Recent polls have put both Obama and Clinton ahead of the entire Republican field. Giuliani is the currently the greatest threat to Democrats and they are having none of it.  He has to go so they are throwing everything they can at him, even if it requires some rewriting of history or some stretches of reason. 

The press knows that the truth is only what people believe it to be- repeat anything long enough and it becomes "fact" to many.

Rosie is just a dupe of the press- she sucks this stuff up and then is like a dog with a bone. 

Pretty sad...