Posted by
Shogrensus on Saturday, April 12, 2008 9:24:09 PM
April 9, 2008
Following up on the April 8th show the women, sans Barbara, jump back into Petreus on the Iraq War on the Hill:
Joy- I could hardly make heads or tails.. I don’t know who to believe. I never believe the Bush administration then these guys work for him so all of a sudden ipso facto I don’t believe anything they are saying
Nothing like having an open mind...
EH tries to offer an explanation of how believable Petreus seems to be
Joy responds: But first he said we can’t get out because there is too much violence now the violence has allegedly subsided and we still can’t get out. When are we going to get out- when it’s perfect there? When we have a Jeffersonian Democracy operating there? When are we leaving?
Yesterday Joy and Barbara were all about how the surge hasn't worked and there is still too much violence. Today she acknowledges the violence has allegedly subsided. Out! She demands! Out!
I was impressed she threw out "Jeffersonian Democracy! I am all for this criterion...
EH: When they see its safe- when it won’t create more
Joy, interrupting: You know what it’s like? He kept saying, I think it was Levin or one of the Senators- he kept saying to Petreus “well when, in 3 months?” “I can’t say” In 4 months?” “I don’t know” It’s like pornography- I’ll know it when I see it.
EH: Joy, honestly- you can’t say, you can’t say in any sort of combat mission “This is the day we’re gonna leave” Do you want to give your enemy that indication?
Good job, Elisabeth! No withdrawal date! Imagine if Jefferson and Washington and all of our Founding Fathers would have said "You know what- if this declaring independence thing hasn't worked by, let's say October 1st, 1781 Cornwallis wouldn't have surrendered his army and the chips would have fallen in a completly different way. Oh well- that would've been too bad.
We should be thankful Joy is not a military strategist...
Joy- It’s been years and years and years. They need to come up with a plan. And this guy Michael Ware on CNN, who has been in Iraq for the past 6 years- he’s the only one I actually do believe because he’s really been there, and he tells you the truth and he says that none of them address the real issue of how we’re going to keep Iran out of Iraq.
In the words of my daughter- OMG!!!! She finally seems to have identified the actual reason we went to war in Iraq in the first place!!! IRAN!!!! Does she understand that Iran is the real problem in the Middle East? And that the hope is that if we can create a foothold for freedom in the Middle East through stabilizing Iraq, the good people of Iran- who live under the threat of persecution by lunatic Fundamentalist Muslim Imams- will rise up and overthrow their terror supporting government?
Joy goes on: That’s the real issue. That requires a lot of diplomacy and a lot of talks at high levels. The Bush Administration is not capable of dealing with Iran. We have to wait for the next President.
Elisabeth trying to interject: Obama was saying bring Iran into the equation
Whoopi corrects Elisabeth: I don’t think that’s what he said. I think he said he would speak to Iran.
Sometimes, I think Whoopi isn't paying attention because she ignores so many ridiculous things that are said. But then her politics come through as she quickly jumps in to sure she corrects what she thinks are incorrect statements about Obama.
Click here to read how Obama plans to get tough on Iran.
If Obama and his supporters are so naive as to believe that a little economic pressure on Iran is going to scare its government into changing its ways, well then he obviously didn't learn much from his extensive foreign affairs experience during his three week visit to Pakistan in 1981. (click here to read about his in depth knowledge)
I cannot believe these women...